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How Many Missing? : Historic
and current numbers of missing men.
The "5,000 POWs" : This
article provides the facts about a false claim in a Senate report that the US expected
5,000 POWs to be returned in 1973.
Statistical reports on US personnel missing
from the Vietnam War, the Korean War, and the Cold War. The Defense
POW-Missing Personnel Office has on their web site several useful reports on men who
are missing from the Vietnam War, Korean War, and Cold War. Most of these reports
are in .pdf format requiring Adobe Acrobat Reader to view them -- Adobe is available free
and the DPMO site has a link to download Adobe. Some of the reports are in HTML or
ASCII format. This page has links to the DPMO site where you may download these
Read this book
The best book about the experience of US POWs in
Southeast Asia is Honor
Bound: American Prisoners of War in Southeast Asia, 1961 - 1973, by
Stuart I. Rochester and Frederick Kiley. I strongly recommend this book. It is
not easy to read -- it's 596 pages long, is detailed, and contains graphic descriptions of
the tortures and deprivations inflicted on US POWs in SEAsia. It is also a soaring
tribute to human courage and compassion. By clicking on the link, you
will go to Amazon.com where you can read a review and order the book if you wish.
The Identification Process: How
remains are identified.
In late May 2000, the Department of Defense approved a policy on
the recovery and identification of remains of missing personnel. Read the policy here.
The U. S. Army Central
Identification Laboratory, Hawaii. The scientists and soldiers in this
laboratory are responsible for the scientific work that leads to identifications.
|DoD procedures to account for missing servicemembers. On
January 31, 2000, the Department of Defense approved a new instruction governing the
process of accounting for missing service members. The Defense POW-Mission Personnel
Office (DPMO) has on their web site a link to the DoD site where readers can find the DoD
instruction and the forms associated with it; here is a link to the DPMO page: http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/special/dodi2310_5.htm
My artilce reproduces the DPMO page, which includes a link to a Washington
headquarters Service site where readers can find the full directive. The DoD Instruction
(2310.5) is long and detailed but I recommend that intersted people read it. |
Abbreviations: Here is a list of
abbreviations that commonly appear in discussion of the MIA issue.
LTG Tighe: The MIA cult activists
are fond of quoting statements by former DIA Director LTG Eugne Tighe to the effect that
he believed there were US POWs abandoned at the end of the Vietnam War. This article
addresses LTG Tighe's unfounded allegations.
"The Secretary of Defense said . . . ":
One often hears the MIA cultists claiming that a former Secretary of
Defense, or an Assistant Secretary of State, or a similiar senior official stated that US
POWs were left behind in SEAsia. Read this article to put things in perspective.
The "Nixon letter."
On February 1, 1973, after the Paris Peace accords ending the war were signed on
January 27, Richard Nixon sent to the North Vietnamese Prime Minister a letter outlining
the terms under which the US would help pay to rebuild North Vietnam. The MIA cult
points to this letter as "proof" that Nixon offered to pay ransom for the
release of US POWs. They further argue that the Vietnamese kept a few US POWs back
for "insurance" and that, when the US reneged on our "promise," they
simply kept the POWs. Here is the Nixon letter. You read it and decide.
The French experience. The MIA
"activist" cult claims that for many years after the end of the French Indochina
War, thousands of French POWs were held by the Vietnamese and finally relased. I
have read claims on "activist" websites that the French government paid millions
of dollars in ransom to free thousands of French POWs years after the end of their war.
None of these claims are true, not even remotely. The French experience was
the same as our experience: At the end of the war, all POWs were released.
This article describes the French experience.
Vietnam's Collection and
Repatriation of American Remains. For years, U. S. analysts and
policy makers knew that the Vietnamese had in place a process of burying Americans who
died in captivity or whose remains they recovered. We also knew that the Vietnamese
recorded the condition of recovered remains and the location of burial sites. There
was unmistakable evidence that the Vietnamese recovered American remains, processed the
remains (cleaned and in some cases treated with preservatives), stored them, and
eventually returned the remains to us. One individual who has become known as "The Mortician" -- provided a detailed report on his
involvement in this process. The major question regarding Vietnam's collection and
repatriation of American remains was how many remains had they collected and had they
returned all of those to the U. S. In June 1999 The Defense POW-Missing
Personnel Office published the results of a three-year study done by analysts in DPMO, the
Central Identification Laboratory, and the Joint Task Force - Full Accounting. The
study is long -- 47 pages, single spaced and double sided. I have a copy of the
study and this article is the summary from the study. To produce this article, I sat
at my computer keyboard and typed in the summary. This article is a direct
quote of the summary of the DPMO study Vietnam's Collection and
Repatriation of American Remains, June 1999. (Posted
to the MIA Facts Site on July 23, 1999.)
What the Returnees Knew About Other POWs: The
Pink, Blue, and White Pages : When US POWs returned in Operation
Homecoming, Spring 1973, they were debriefed as to what they knew about other Americans.
This article describes the results of those debriefs.
Where to find information.
I often receive e-mail from folks seeking information on missing men or on current
operations. This article is a listing of sources of information that may be helpful.
Accounting for the Missing : A
review of the history and activities of US agencies working to account for missing men in
What to do now? As required by
law, on May 11, 2001, President Bush issued a certification that Vietnam is cooperating
fully in our efforts to account for our missing in SEAsia. In 1999, when
Bill Clinton issued the same certification, the National League of Families stated that
they "reject as invalid" Clinton's certification. The League is openly
pro-Republican. Now that a Republican president has issued the same certification,
the League is in an interesting position.
Deserters Among the Missing? One of
the many enduring questions that surrounds the MIA issue is that of deserters and their
presence on the list of the missing from Vietnam. This article lays out what I know
about the MIA-deserter questions. I do not present myself as an expert on the topic
nor do I claim that this article is the definitive word on the topic. This article
is my recollections, supplemented with material that I have picked up from FOIA requests
that I have submitted, press articles from sources that I trust, and material passed to me
by qualified, reliable researchers. This article contains information on:
Mateo Sabog, Earl Weatherman, and other individual stories.
What Can We Expect ? : Not
every missing man will be found. This article is the full text of the most
exhaustive review ever done of the cases of every American missing in Southeast
Asia. It provides an excellent analytic statement as to what we can
The Facts Don't Change. While
on active duty, I was attacked by the MIA "activists" because my answers did not
square with their claims. So was Chuck Trowbridge, long-term deputy in the MIA
Office. Jim Wold, DASD for POW-MIA Affairs had a six-month honeymoon then they tore
him apart. Now, Bob Jones is DASD and the "activists" are welcoming him.
Give them a few months then he, too, will become the "enemy."
The Earth is Not Flat. Once upon a
time, the most advanced, wise, and learned scientists believed that the earth was flat and
that the earth was the center of the universe -- the sun and stars revolved around the
earth. This belief held on until well into the 17th century and later in some
places. The MIA activist cult practices the "earth is flat" belief system
-- they dust off old reports, letters, and what not and proclaim they have discovered a
deep, dark secret. This article deals with some of the
activists' favorite flat-earth beliefs.
The Mortician's Story :
In 1979, a Chinese - Vietnamese refugee from Hanoi entered a refugee camp in Hong
Kong. His story is one of the most important elements of the entire MIA issue.
Read the facts here.
Selling the Bones : Written by
Sedgewick Tourison, this article is a tour-de-force based on Wick's long involvement in
the MIA issue.
The Categories: What They Are and Are Not
: On many of the MIA websites, one sees references to a missing man being a
"Category 1 confirmed POW." Not true. Read here the facts of the
The Live Sightings. Since
1975, US intelligence has collected nearly 2,000 reports in which a source reports having
seen one or more people, believed to be American(s), in prison in Vietnam, Laos, or
Cambodia. The MIA "activists" like to point to these reports as proof that
US POWs are still there and they like to claim that we government cover-up artists only
"debunk" the reports. In fact, most of these reports are true and
accurate, they just are not reports of US POWs.
The Trust: Vietnamese Intelligence Services At
Work. This article describes a little known aspect of the MIA
issue. In fact, the topic of this article is unknown outside a few US intelligence
folks and some historians. Following the end of the Russian Civil War, the
"Reds" (The Russian Communists) had a problem on their hands: The
fledgling Soviet Union was under attack by "White" forces and organizations
inside Russia, supported by anti-Communist Russian emigre organizations around the world.
Furthermore, the Western democracies were hostile to the new Communist regime
and they collaborated with the "Whites" to oppose the new "Red"
regime. What to do? The Soviet intelligence agencies put together a very
successful operation -- "The Trust" -- that eventually cut off
the opposition at the knees -- it was brilliant. After the Communist unification of
Vietnam in 1975, the intelligence services of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (SRV) ran
an operation based on the Soviet "Trust."
"Show Me The Money." One
of the little known facets of the MIA issue is that of individuals and groups who use the
MIA issue to raise money. Groups who do this fall into two categories: (1)
Grass-roots organizations who really are working to keep the MIA issue in the public eye,
and (2) those who are making money off the issue. This article reproduces the
relevant sections from the final report of the Senate Select Committee on POW/MIAs (the
SSC). I recommend strongly that interested folks read the book by Susan
Katz-Keating, Prisoners of Hope. Ms. Keating started
off supporting the "activist" point of view. She became known to several
of them and they talked with her. She soon realized that their views were not in
accord with reality so she produced an investigative work that spilled the beans on many
of them and that was documented. She has been attacked by the "activists"
for fabricating portions of the book but none of them dare sue her because they know that
she has the documents.
The "Cuban Program." Between
July 1967 and August 1968, nineteen US POWs in Hanoi were separated from the other US POWs
and were subjected to interrogation and torture by a group of Caucasians. These
Caucasians spoke English well but with an apparent Spanish accent. They seemed to
have excellent knowledge of Central America and at least one of the men seemed to have
spent some time in the southeastern United States. One of the US POWs subjected to
this treatment died of the torture. US intelligence learned of this event as soon as
US POWs returned in Operation Homecoming, spring 1973. The US POWs who were forced
into this nearly year-long interrogation and torture believed that the Caucasians were
Cubans, thus, this has become known as "the Cuban program." Beginning in
1973, US agencies -- FBI, CIA, and the Defense Intelligence Agency -- made numerous
attempts to identify the "Cubans" -- with inconclusive results. Now
(November 5, 1999) there is a resurgence of interest in the "Cuban program,"
spawned by an article that appeared in the Miami Herald in August 1999.
That article was initiated by one CDR William "Chip" Beck who -- for reasons
that I cannot discern -- is trying to prove that the US government, and one individual in
particular, covered up this hideous treatment of US POWs. This is a twisted tale; if
you can sort it out, let me know. Meanwhile, to understand this affair, you need to
read three articles; start here so you start with the facts.
Beck Returns to Cuba.
Former Navy LCDR "Chip" Beck has returned to Cuba. He claims in a December 1999
letter to the editor in the Washington Times that he was going there to seek the
truth about Cuban contact with US POWs during the Vietrnam War. According to the
Cuban report on his visit, he was one of 37 journalists who visited Cuba for a major
non-event. I can hardly wait to read Beck's claims about this visit. (1/19/00)
Recurring Mythology. There are
stories, claims, and reports related to the MIA issue that surface again and again.
They take various forms, deal with a number of topics, and some of them have taken on the
stature of near-gospel. On the other hand, from time to time, new tales are
invented (such as the current bogus claim by MIA "activists" that
"the government spent more to find JFK, Jr. than they are spending to find our
missing men"). The purpose of this article is to accumulate in one place these
commonly repeated or newly-introduced tales and comment on them. In some
cases, I have placed a link to an article that provides more detail about the matter under
discussion. These are listed in no particular order and I will add new items as they
"My Adopted POW." One has
only to surf the worldwide web for a few minutes before encountering a "POW-MIA
remembrance site" featuring "my adopted POW-MIA." On several of
these sites and other sites sponsored by MIA "activist" groups one sees messages
to the effect that "I have adopted (a missing man's name) and would like to contact
his family." These "remembrance sites" and attempts to contact
families are, in my view, very bad ideas.
One of the enduring myths of the MIA issue, and a favorite of the "activists,"
is that Americans were lost in and did not return from Laos in numbers that are out of all
proportion to losses and returnees from North and South Vietnam. This
"fact" -- which is not a fact at all -- is supposed to "prove" that
men missing in Laos were spirited away, never to be seen again. These two articles
deal with the myth of the missing in Laos.
Americans missing in Laos: No mystery here
: One of the favorite refrains of the MIA cult is that
only nine Americans captured in Laos returned. With over 500 still missing in Laos,
the discrepancy in numbers between returnees and missing proves that vast numbers of
Americans were left to rot in jungle prisons in Laos. The facts tell a decidedly
different story. There is no mystery in Laos.
The Over Water Losses. One of the
continuing myths that plagues the MIA issue is the refrain that, because so high a
proportion of the men lost in Laos were declared Missing In Action (MIA) versus Killed In
Action/Body Not Recovered (KIA/BNR), this must mean that men survived and were captured in
large numbers, never to be returned. One element of this myth is dealt with in the
preceding article. There is another factor that presents a false picture of
the losses in Laos as compared to those in North Vietnam and South Vietnam :
The overwater losses. A number of men lost in North and South Vietnam
were lost overwater; no one in Laos was lost overwater. Most of the overwater losses
were declared KIA/BNR, thereby skewing the statistics to make it appear that
proportionally more men were MIA in Laos than in Vietnam. This article illustrates
the effect of the overwater losses.
Amputees and Back-seaters: Another myth
down the drain : Another of the favorite myths among the
MIA cultists is the claim that no amputees, no one with disfiguring burns, or no one with
other disfiguring injuries returned from captivity. They go on to explain that
the Vietnamese did not release these unfortunate US POWs because to do so would
reveal that men were injured during torture or would reveal the deficiencies of the
Vietnamese medical system. This same myth alleges that no US POWs who had been
driven insane by their treatment were released, for the same reason. And, the myth
goes on, no US POWs with specialized technical knowledge were released; they were all
traded to the Soviets for equipment. Now, on the surface of things, these stories
sound reasonable. I have even heard several MIA activists spouting these claims
before an enthralled audience. This entire myth is false. Read this article
for some facts.
Phony POWs : Spread
throughout the land are several low-life individuals who portray themselves as having been
prisoners of war during the Vietnam War. Their stories vary, they pop up at
veteran's organizations, MIA family meetings, and in one case a phony POW is used as a
source in a book.
In early October 2002, a British publisher released a book titled
The Cage by an individual named Tom Abraham. Abraham claims to have been a
platoon leader with the 1st Cav Division in Vietnam; he also claims to have been captured
and escaped. His claim to have been a prisoner is bogus. Read about him here.
What to do if you suspect
a person is a phony POW. Follow this link for an article
that has some recommendations as to what to do if you think you have encountered a phony
1?73 TH: Real markings on the ground :
On 10 May 1973 a US reconnaissance drone operating over the Plain of Jars in
northern Laos photographed a group of letters and numbers in an area of tall grass.
A lot of misinformation has grown up around this photograph. There are
persistent claims that these symbols were stamped out by Americans from a C-130 gunship,
lost several months earlier. Instead, the best available information suggests
that the symbols were made by Thai Special Forces personnel who were evading
The Double Standard. Major Mark A. Smith, US Army (Retired) claimed in July 1994 that he was
working on gaining the release of 572 US POWs. In October 1992, Senator Jesse Helms
announced that in "thirty to sixty to ninety days" a US POW would be freed.
Neither of these individuals delivered so much as a bone fragment. What would
have happened to me or any other government official who had made such a claim? Why
the double standard? I'm confused.
Identified in a Photo. Often,
especially from the MIA activists, one hears the claim that a missing man was identified
by a family member in a photograph, thus, he must be alive and the US government must be
lying to the family. Neither of these claims is correct. During and after the
war, the US collected scores of photos of US POWs during Vietnam. Every single one
of these has been identified. Anyone who tells you that ". . . two family
members identified him and he is still missing . . ." simply is not correct.
: This is my proposal to bring reality to the MIA issue.
Origin of the POW-MIA Bracelets. Anyone
who has been around the MIA issue for a few minutes is aware of the POW-MIA bracelets.
The bracelets come in various finishes -- I have seen aluminum bracelets as well as
bracelets of gold, silver, stainless steel, colored aluminum, copper, and brass. On
each bracelet is engraved, at a minimum, the name, rank, service, loss date, and country
of loss of a missing man from the Vietnam War. From time to time I have been asked
where the bracelets originated. The first bracelets were made by a young lady named
Carol Bates, who now works for the Defense POW-Missing Persons Office (that is, she,
Carol, was younger then than now, as we all were). Here is Carol's article on the origin of the bracelets.
Identifying Unknowns From Korea. A
little-known fact about the over 8,000 men "missing" from the Korean War is that
864 of these men are buried in the Punchbowl National Cemetery, Honolulu, as unknown --
their remains were recovered but could not be identified. Now, with advances in DNA
testing, the Department of Defense has announced that remains of unknowns from Korea will
be disinterred and identified, if possible. This article includes the text of a May 21,
1999 Defense Department announcement regarding identifying the Korean War unknowns.
Code Name: Bright Light.
Few folks realize the effort that was put forward during the war to find US POWs
and, if possible, to rescue them. Drawing on previously classified documents
-- and some documents that were not classified but that simply had not been reviewed --
former Army Captain George J. Veith has written a book detailing the history of the Joint
Personnel Recovery Center (JPRC; later the Joint Casualty Resolution Center, JCRC). This book is a good history of the JPRC and I
recommend it for that reason. I do not recommend that the reader accept the
conclusions of the book as regards intelligence reports and sources that the author cites.
In several cases, he has made analytic conclusions that are not supportable, mainly
because he accepted the word of unreliable sources or he accepted unreliable reports.
The JPRC history is good, the intell analysis is shaky. Two more criticisms:
(1) The book reads a lot like detailed research notes and could have used a
serious edit. (2) There are no lessons learned from the JPRC experience. We
need to recognize the problems cause for JPRC by inter-service competition, and political
constraints because we operate in a joint, allied, multi-national environment today.
Report of the Senate Select Committee on POW-MIA
Affairs. This link takes you to a copy of the SSC report.
This link takes you to my article on
the SSC report. In January 1993, the Senate Select Committee on POW-MIA
Affairs adjourned (had been in session since summer 1991) and published their final
report. The final report comments on nearly every aspect of the MIA issue. I
was disappointed that they did not spend much time on what the Vietnamese,
Lao, and Cambodians (especially the Vietnamese) could tell us. Still, the report is
useful. Not surprisingly the SSC Final Report is misrepresented by the MIA
"activist" cult. This article features several of the major points of the
SSC Final Report.
1991: What a year. 1991 saw a
consolidated effort by the MIA cult to influence US policies toward Vietnam -- it almost
The Japanese Monk's Story. In
1989, the Vietnamese released a Mr. Ganshin Yoshida, an old Japanese Buddhist monk who had
been in Vietnam for 25 years. Yoshida's story -- actually, his lack of a story --
has been falsified and misrepresented by the MIA activists. This article contains
the facts about Yoshida.
Charles Duke and Kit Mark: A Serious Analysis.
In May 1970, two US civilian employees of Dynalectron Corporation
disappeared in the Central Highlands of South Vietnam. The US Embassy, US forces,
and ARVN forces immediately launched search operations to find these men or to determine
what happened to them. Within a few days, information was received from several
sources making it clear that both men were killed in a surprise encounter with Communist
guerrillas and buried west of Pleiku on 30 May 1970. The Duke-Mark case has become
one of the bits of mythology used by the MIA "activist" cult -- the incident is
misrepresented, and, inaccurate and untrue information is spread about this incident.
Former MIA investigator Bill Bell wrote an article on this incident that was
published in the April 2002 issue of Vietnam magazine. Bell's article is
typical of his sloppy analysis and wishful thinking. The article also is a
compilation of the inaccurate, misleading, and untrue information spread by the MIA cult
regarding this incident. Read this article for a serious
analysis of this loss incident.
9 January 2006. Almost one year ago (12 February 2005) the
"National Alliance of Families for the Return of America's Missing" (at
least, that's what they were calling themselves then) announced in their
newsletter that the US government had evidence of
"hundreds" of US personnel imprisoned in the Soviet Gulag
-- "hundreds" -- that's their words. Well -- folks,
it's been a year -- where are they? What are their names? What
is being done to bring them home? Where is any more information?
Could it be that this is just another crock generated by incompetent
"researchers" in DPMO? I'll report, you decide.
12 December 2005.
On 2 December 2005, DASD Jerry Jennings
wrote to the DPMO staff a letter informing them that he was retiring from
Federal service and stepping down from his position as DASD/POW-MIA Affairs.
I won't go into the details -- mainly because I don't know most of the
details -- but -- Jennings had been under attack by the family organizations
for some time. While the family organizations will give long, involved
explanations for their opposition to Jennings, in my experience, their
attack on him comes from their not being able to control him and comes from
Jennings telling people the truth and not telling them what they want to
hear. A short notice of Jennings' retirement is posted on the DPMO
website at http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/
Assistant Secretary of Defense and Director of
DPMO Jerry Jennings
recently made statements
relative to the possibility of US POWs being
transferred from Vietnam to the USSR that are,
in a word, nonsense. I don't know who
Jennings is trying to impress but he would do
better to stick with the facts -- which do not
support his claims.
Read about it here.
Alliance "Inside Source" Revealed.
This article will be of
interest only to a few who are "insiders"
to the issue of Americans missing in
SEAsia. Beginning on 11 September
2004, the National Alliance of Families
started publishing claims made by an
"inside source." I know the source
in this article I reveal his name
and discuss the phony claims he makes. He is
a good guy; I don't know what has happened to
him; it's a shame that he will be used,
abused, and tossed aside.
Why are we displaying the "POW-MIA" flag?
article by a Chicago Sun-Times columnist.
Censored, again. One of the "activist"
POW-MIA organizations is a group calling themselves "Minnesota Won't Forget
POW/MIA." Once made up mainly of MIA family members, the organization long ago
became more "activist" and less "family." One of their members
is an individual named Rich Daly -- Daly claims to be a "researcher" for MN
Won't Forget; he may be the executive director now. Regardless, I had several
articles on this site detailing some of the activities of MN Won't Forget. On
October 3, 2003, I received a letter from their attorney accusing me of defaming MN Won't
Forget. I have removed from this site the articles dealing with Daly and MN Won't
Forget. Go to this link for a copy of the letter from their
Gulf War: On 11 October 2002, the
Secretary of the Navy directed that the status of CAPT Michael Speicher, lost on the first
night of Desert Storm in 1991, be changed to Missing/Captured. I retired before most
of the work on the Speicher case was done and I am not familiar with the details.
This link takes you to a copy of the SECNAV letter -- the
letter contains a brief description of evidence in the case.
Abandoned in March 2000? On
the evening of September 7, 2000, I opened my e-mail inbox to find the usual stuff --
messages from friends and family, spam, and then I found the most amazing message titled
"Were 2 Americans Abandoned in March 2000?" The message came to me from an
anonymous mailer; it was a LONG message from "MIA activist" Steve Golding in
which he described a truly bizarre chain of events, including quotes from e-mail messages
to/from three other people. You must read it to believe it -- no one could make up
something as loony as this. Caution: This is a BIG file -- it will take a
minute to load. UPDATE: (October 2000) There's more!!
It seems that Bob Necci, chair of the VVA POW-MIA Committee, hauled himself off to SEAsia
in March 2000 where he chased around, following scams about "Americans."
Now, a small war has broken out involving Necci, Golding, and a few others from the MIA
cult. That's what happens when you are committed to mythology.
Glory Hallelujah !! It's happened !! The truth about the MIA
issue has slipped out. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for POW-MIA Affairs
Bob Jones was quoted speaking the truth. Here it is.
(August 18, 2000)
The Sky is NOT Falling. In the normal
course of events, Pentagon offices undergo reviews to see if they are operating the best
way possible. These reviews go by different names but a common one is "Mission
Area Analysis," or, MAA. The Defense POW-Missing Personnel Office is undergoing
a MAA (as of March 2000). The National Alliance of Families has sounded the alarm,
claiming that this MAA means that DPMO will essentially stop looking for missing from
Vietnam in 2004. Nonsense. Read the facts here.
the Guestbook page of this site is an
entry from the family member of an individual who was lost in a shootdown over Laos.
The author asks that I comment on her message. I am not familiar with this
loss and, thus, am not able to comment on details but I have provided some general
Response re: Korean War MIAs.
This article is in response to a question left on the MIA Facts Site
On July 23, 2000, the Washington Post published an article about the continuing gamesmanship between
North and South Korea involving old men from each side that the other sides still hold, 50
years after the war. It's not as simple as unrepatirated POWs -- and it has nothing
to do with US personnel missing from Korea. (7/23/00)
USMC Private Robert Garwood disappeared from the Da Nang Marine
Base, Vietnam, in 1965. Later, Garwood was with US POWs in jungle prison camps
in South Vietnam. But, Garwood was not in these camps as a POW -- he was, instead,
an active member of Communist forces. When US POWs were released in 1973, Garwood
remained in Vietnam, living freely, until 1979 when he asked to come home. He was
convicted of collaboration and of striking an American POW. Read the entire Garwood
story in these articles. These articles are the text of a report prepared for the
Asst. Secty. of Defense, C3I, reproduced here in its entirety. Note:
This report is long. I have reproduced it here in sections to make it load
Dirtbags. The MIA issue is
dogged by any number of people who spread untrue, inaccurate, and misleading
information. There are others who prey on families and on unsuspecting veterans and
the general public. Some of the people in these categories do so because they
themselves are simply misinformed or uninformed. Others do what they do out of
honest but misplaced zeal. Then there are a few who are true dirtbags -- they care
not a whit for truth or for whom they hurt. Here is a list of foks who have made my
list of MIA dirtbags.
Jerry Mooney -- Nothing. Former
USAF Master Sergeant Jerry Mooney is a hero of the MIA activist cult. Mooney was an
Air Force Security Service analyst who analyzed intercepted radio communications. He
has made numerous claims, most of them revolving around his claim that he saw intercepted
communications proving that US POWs were taken to the Soviet Union -- "MB - Moscow
Bound" as he put it. The facts are quite the opposite. When given a
chance to show what he knew to the Senate Select Committee on POW-MIA Affairs, Mooney had
nothing -- which is exactly what he has always had -- nothing. Jerry Mooney is just
another charlatan and liar, making a name for himself at the expense of MIA families.
Operation Wild Fire: Another MIA Scam:
On 10 May 2002, an individual signing the name "Richard Barker"
left a message on the Guestbook. Barker was part of a scam alleging that the people
running the scam knew of US POWs and would free them -- but they needed a bit of financial
SPECTRE 17: In December 1972, a
USAF AC-130 gunship was shot down in Laos. Two crewmembers were blown out / jumped
from the rear ramp and were rescued. The remaining crewmembers died in the
explosion, crash, and fire. This incident is seriously misrepresented on MIA
activist websites. Read the facts in this article.
Another amateur at work. The
matter of Americans "missing in action" from previous wars continues to be
plagued by the work of amateurs whose flawed "analysis" tends to find it's way
into general circulation where it becomes final truth. Several hundred unknowns from
the Korean War are buried in the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific, also referred
to as the Punch Bowl Cemetery. At the end of the Korean War, the Chinese and North
Koreans turned over to the US 4,167 containers of remains. A "researcher and
author," Larry Jolidon -- I have no idea what he has written -- compared names
resulting from forensic work on the returned remains, then compared the names of missing
from Korea and determined that 239 of the missing were buried in Punch Bowl. It's
not that simple. A review of ALL THE FACTS shows that Jolidon's "analysis"
suffers from the fatal flaws of most amateur analysis: simplicity and blind
acceptance of lists.
All the bad actors in one place. In
late 1985-early 1986, a "POW rescue" caper developed around claims made by Mark
Smith, Major, US Army (retired) that he had a videotape showing several live US
POWs. Before this phony story ended, it involved a large group of bad actors and
fools, including Smith, Senator (then representative) Bob Smith, Billy Hendon, Ted Sampley
and an international criminal, Robin Gregson. This is a long and bizarre story -- here it is.
Tilting at windmills. In the
finest tradition of Don Quixote, self-appointed MIA researcher Roger Hall has identified
windmills posing as giants -- or is it the other way around? Either way, Hall filed
a frivolous and ignorant suit against the CIA -- he keeps plugging away. This
article contains an article written by Hall with the facts inserted.
More on Roger Hall. One
of the vestiges of the Vietnam era MIA issue is a long-standing Freedom of Information Act
(FOIA) suit by one Roger Hall of Silver Spring, MD against
the Central Intelligence Agency in which Mr. Hall alleges that the CIA is holding
documents that prove US POWs were not released by the Vietnamese at the end of the war and
the US government has covered up this fact. He is suing the CIA to force release of
these alleged documents. Mr. Hall formed a not-for-profit, tax exempt organization
to pursue his suit. Tax returns filed by not-for-profit organizations are public
documents and, in April 2003, I requested from Mr. Hall copies of the last three years' of
his organization's tax returns. The returns reveal some facts about his
organization's finances that perhaps he does not want to be public knowledge.
Bogus claims by Task Force Omega. This
article contains claims made by "Task Force Omega of Kentucky" that are typical
of the bogus claims and misrepresentations common in MIA activist cult circles. The
article also contains the facts of these claims.
Shredding Documents. A favorite
story of the MIA cult claims that General Tom Needham, the first commander of Joint Task
Force -- Full Accounting, shredded thousands of valuable documents in the US Embassy in
Bangkok. They even claim that Needham pulled his pistol on the Ambassador when he
attempted to stop the shredding. The story is horseshit, though it is based on a
No Manchurian Candidate. For some
years now there have been steady attacks on the valor and patriotism of Senator John
McCain (Republican, Arizona). McCain was a Navy aviator, shot down over North
Vietnam on 26 October 1967 and released at Operation Homecoming in March 1973. He
was severely injured in his ejection and landing and endured unspeakable tortures.
The attacks on McCain originate almost entirely from Vietnam veterans and many of
his attackers accuse him of collaborating with his Vietnamese captors, in spite of
testimony from other POWs as to his bravery, leadership, and valorous conduct. Why
and from where come the attacks on McCain? The source of the attacks on McCain is,
mainly, one certain MIA "activist" who is himself the source of enormous
fabrications, misrepresentations, and nonsense and who has made a nice living off the MIA
issue. This individual has fabricated a tale in which he accuses McCain of
treasonous activities; his accusations are based on misquotes, misrepresentations,
fabrications, and Vietnamese wartime propaganda. Yet, this story has gained the
status of gospel among the McCain haters and the MIA "activists." Read here for the rest of the story.
During my tenure in the MIA offices in the Pentagon, we occasionally received letters from
one Paul Rifenberg from Michigan. Mr. Rifenberg was filled with the usual
cover-up-and-conspiracy stories and he apparently believed them all. Now, Mr.
Rifenberg has found the MIA Facts Site and he has been leaving messages on the Guestbook. One of his messages reveals an enormous load of
mythology. Here is a reply -- though I don't know
why I bother.
Another Myth in the MakingPlease
deliver me from true believers. Mr. Rifenberg strikes again. Now he has left a
message on my Guestbook claiming that downed US airmen sent
distress signals by using air-dropped remote sensors to punch in their authenticator
codes. Never happened -- read about it here. (July 5,
Bring 'em Back Alive. Would
you like to rescue a US POW who is still imprisoned a quarter-century after the end of the
war? Sign up here, send lots of money, and go get 'em. Don't be surprised if
you come home empty-handed and broke.
A Sad Story: This article
is being written in early September 1999. It is the result of some research that I
have been working at for some time. I am not happy writing this article and wish
that it were not necessary. However, this article reveals the level to which even
members of the US Congress are willing to sink to prove some point that totally escapes
me. This article is a complicated story so please read carefully. The articles
listed below must be read in conjunction with A Sad Story.
Substantial Misrepresentations of Fact.
The MIA issue is cursed with a number of bullshit artists. I thought that I
had seen them all but then appeared USN Reserve Commander Chip Beck.
This article provides some background on Beck's sojourn in the Defense POW-MIA Office and
reproduces a letter from Beck to a Miami newspaper that reveals this man's ability to
spread it around. His letter is a piece of work unequalled in its
dumbness. This article is related to the one above, A Sad Story, and to the
following article, The Official Record.
Record. This article is a collection of official documents that bear on the two
articles above. Read the two articles above before reading the official record
The Russian "41" List:
Worthless. In 1992, the Russians turned over to the US a list of
names. They had gone through namelists of people who were arrested in the USSR
between 1922 and 1968 and tried to match the names on that list to names of US MIAs.
They came up with 41 matches. The MIA activists crowd has seized on this list
as proof that US POWs were hauled off to the USSR. The problem with this claim
is that, while the Russians tried to match the names of missing Americans to the
names of people in their prison system, the resulting list is almost 100 percent wrong.
The names that they matched are names of Americans who returned at Homecoming;
whose remains have been returned; whose bodies were recovered at time of loss;
who were lost after the cutoff date for the list; or, were names of foreigners lost in
Vietnam. The list is worthless.
This article takes a close look at a recent bit of nonsense that is being
promulgated on the MIA activist circuit. On November 10, 1998, Steve Golding, whose
site is filled with phony stories and myths, posted on the newsgroup alt.war.pow-mia
an "alert" to the faithful. The message claimed that a Russian document
had been found that ". . . points toward a KGB-planned transfer
of captured US Personnel to the then Soviet Union . . . " Recipients of
Golding's message are urged to ". . . give this
widest possible distribution and take the appropriate action accordingly." This
Russian document contains a reference to an alleged KGB operation that was intended to
move "informed Americans" to the USSR for intelligence purposes. The
activist community insists that this is the smoking gun they have been looking for.
Not quite. In fact, there was a KGB operation aimed at moving Americans to the USSR
for exploitation but it had nothing to do with US POWs. Read all about it here; read
"informed Americans" in conjunction with the next article, "Low
Beams.". (Article added
to the MIA Fact Site on March 14, 1999.)
|Barry Toll -- More Tales. Another of the heroes of
the MIA cult is former US Army sergeant Barry Toll. Toll appeared on the scene
during the Senate Select Committee hearings, 1991 - 1993. Toll had served as an
intelligence sergeant in the detachment that supported the national airborne command post
at Langley Air Force Base, Virginia. He claimed that while in this assignment --
1973-1975 -- he saw briefing material for the Nixon and Ford White Houses and for senior
military commanders. Toll claimed that these briefings told of US knowledge that 290
to 340 US POWs were being held in Laos or North Vietnam. He further claimed that US
intell had tracked Soviet flights carrying US POWs from SEAsia to the USSR or to Soviet
bloc countries in Eastern Europe. Toll's claims are lies.|
Not That Simple. The
December 1998 issue of Harry Summers' magazine Vietnam carries an article by Bill
Bell on the loss of Army PFC Donald Sparks. In this article, Bell makes that case
that the Vietnamese can tell us a lot more about Sparks's loss than they have to
date. Maybe, maybe not. It's not that simple.
Baron 52 : In February 1973, an
EC-47Q electronic reconnaissance aircraft was downed over Laos. The crew died in the
crash but a vast body of misinformation has been built up around this incident.
Read this article by Mr. Robert Destatte for the facts.
False and Misleading Reporting : This
article by Sedgewick Tourison lays out the sorry story of phony POW - MIA reports.
Greer and Schreckengost: Two Marines and the
Lies Told About Them : Two Marines, Fred Schreckengost and Robert Greer,
disappeared in 1964. All information about their disappearance indicated that they
were killed 24 - 48 hours after being captured. The facts did not stop a vast myth
being constructed around them.
The Case of CDR Donald Hubbs : This
story provides the background of one of the MIA myths.
The Case of Major Hugh Fanning.
This article provies background on another favorite story of the "MIA
"Evader Symbols" : An
enduring claim by the MIA cult is that the name and "secret evader codes" of
missing Americans were seen in early-1990s satellite imagery in Vietnam. Not
so. This article lays out the whole story.
Statement by Duane Andrews : On October 15, 1992, Mr. Andrews, Asst. SECDEF for Command, Control,
Communications and Intelligence testified before the Senate Select Committee on POW-MIA
Affairs regarding the topic: "Did US POWs Leave 'Symbols' in Southeast
Asia." His testimony is a succinct review of the "symbols" that
the MIA activists allege prove the presence of abandoned US POWs in SEAsia.
How A MIA Myth is Born: The Somdee Phomachan
Story : One of the favorite stories of the MIA cult is that told by a
Laotian refugee, Mr. Somdee Phomachan. Somdee left Laos in late 1984 and told an
interviewer that he had never seen an American in prison in Laos. Later, he changed
his story. This article details Somdee's phony story and the facts that refute his
LTC Phillip Corso: UFOs and POWs, or, Dingbat Extraordinaire.
A hero of the MIA cult is retired Army LTC Phillip Corso (who died in 1998 at age
83). Corso claimed that he personally briefed Eisenhower on reports of US POWs taken
from Korea to the USSR. Each time Corso spoke, his story became more grand.
His story is nonsense. The best way to judge Corso's credibility is to look at
another of his avocations: UFOs. In 1996, Corso published a book, The Day
After Roswell, in which he claimed that the US reverse-engineered technology
recovered from a UFO crash in Roswell, NM, in 1947. He claims that we developed
transistors, integrated circuits, kevlar, and other marvels from alien technology.
Read all about it here. Corso is just another of the dingbats who haunts the MIA
issue -- his mind left the planet long before he did.
The "1205 Document" : In
January 1993, a researcher working in archives in Moscow discovered a document that
purported to be a report made by a senior Vietnamese military officer to the Vietnamese
Communist Party. The document claimed that, in September 1972, the Vietnamese were
holding 1,205 US POWs, five months before Operation Homecoming in which 591 US POWs were
released. If accurate, this document would prove that the Vietnamese did not release
over 600 US POWs. That's the rub -- it is not accurate, and, it may be a
General Jan Sejna's Story : In the
early 1990s, Gen. Jan Sejna, who had defected from Czechoslovakia in 1968, claimed to know
of an operation that took US POWs from Korea and Vietnam through Czechoslovakia into the
USSR for medical experiments. Sejna's story is compelling -- it is also phony in the
ILT Earl Hopper, Jr., USAF: The Facts?
: This is a sad story about an MIA father who insists on spreading falsehoods
about his son's loss. 1LT Earl Hopper and CAPT Keith Hall were the crew of an F4
shot down in 1968. Hall was able to eject; Hopper cold not eject, probably due to
damage to the ejection system when the aircraft was hit by a surface-to-air missile.
Hopper's father, Earl, Sr., has spread a huge lie about his son's loss for years.
Now, the crashsite has been excavated; human remains and a large quantity of
crew-related equipmetn were recovered. Read about it here.
Operation Duck Soup: MIA Mythology Run Amuck
: One of the worst lies told
by the MIA cult has to do with "Operation Duck Soup." It never happened,
but, according to the MIA mythology, a secret US agency ran a rescue operation into SEAsia
some time after the war ended and actually rescued two US POWs. Then, according to
the cultists, we gave the POWs back to their captors. That's right, rescued them then gave them
back; I don't make up this stuff , I just report it. Read this article for the
Mr. Cuong and The Mortician's Check (Warning:
This story is wackier than most. ) This article may
not mean much to the casual reader. Here is the background: One of the
regulars on the newsgroup alt.war.vietnam is an individual using the name Paul
Bylin. Mr. Bylin purports to have some sort of expertise on the MIA
issue. He regularly attacks Mr. Bob Destatte, long-time Department of Defense
analyst on MIA affairs, a retired US Army warrant officer who served several years in
Vietnam, mainly as an interrogator and translator. Bob is one of the top two or
three Vietnamese linguists in the US Department of Defense. Bylin claims that Destatte
uses an alias, Mr. Cuong, and that Bob took money from the mortician. Neither of
these claims is based in fact. Mr. Bylin's claims are rooted in a rambling,
unprofessional, and essentially useless deposition taken from the mortician
during the tenure of the Senate Select Committee on POW-MIA Affairs. Read on for
this sad story of another fantasy generated by the MIA cult.
Much ado about nothing. One
of the many "POW-MIA" sites on the web is the "POW-MIA Freedom
Fighters" site. These folks are an inconsequential collection but they do like
to give themselves credit.
Kiss the Truth Good-bye : Several books have been written on the Vietnam War
POW-MIA issue, most of them trash. Kiss the Boys Goodbye: How the United States
Betrayed Its Own POWs in Vietnam, by Monika Jensen-Stevenson, is particularly bad
because it is referred to in reverent terms by many MIA "activists."
Read this article for the facts about Kiss.
LTC James "Bo" Gritz (US Army,
Retired): Huckster. Retired Army lieutenant colonel (not colonel)
James "Bo" Gritz is a huckster and a fraud of the highest order. Gritz has
produced a vast array of stories in which he claims that he was on officially- sponsored
POW rescue missions. Every one of his tales is nonsense. Oh, yes, Bo did
travel to SEAsia in the 1980's with some folks who fell for his bullshit but he was not on
any official missions and he rescued no one. He never even crossed a border.
Instead, Bo raised money from unsuspecting people -- he scammed one MIA family out of
$40,000 and got $25,000 from an Oklahoma church -- rounded up a few gullible folks, and
had himself a grand time chasing around NE Thailand. If you can ever get your hands
on a copy of the Spring 1983 Soldier of Fortune magazine Special POW-MIA issue,
read it from cover to cover. There you will find the facts about Bo's phony
claims. Meanwhile, here are some articles to keep you entertained and
The mission he never went on.
In January 1966, seventeen Special Forces soldiers went on recon missions in the An Lo
Valley of South Vietnam. One team encountered heavy PAVN contact and the others
came to their aid. Of the 17, five were killed, two are missing in action, and three
were wounded. Gritz was not on the mission; he was not even assigned to the unit and
was in another part of the country. Yet, on 29 May 1981, Gritz made a speech to a
Vietnam Veterans luncheon at the Statler Hotel, Buffalo, NY, in which he claimed to have
been on the mission. Read all about it here.
. . . medals rained from the heavens : To hear him tell the story, Bo is the true, grand hero of the
Vietnam War. Don't believe it? Then, just look at his medals. This
article relates the details and the facts of some of Bo's claims. If you visit
his web site, you will see a photo of Bo decked out in his chest full of
medals. The problem is that there are serious questions as to how Bo received those
medals. Read this article to see a report by the adjutant of the 5th Special
Forces Group regarding Bo's medals.
A Legend in His Own Mind. One of
the enduring myths of the MIA issue is Bo's "POW rescue operations".
His "POW rescue operations" are legendary -- legendary and phony. Bo's
tales of POW rescues are total bullshit. Read about it here.
Another who is a legend in his own
mind. Major Mark A. Smith, US Army (Retired)
is a hero of the MIA activist crowd. Smith lives in Thailand and
for many years he ran a "POW
search organization," complete with "sources," "agents," and
"operatives" -- he may still be running the "operation,"
though I haven't heard from him in years (as of July 2009).
Regardless, it was all bogus.
Phony Photos : In
the summer of 1991, three photographs surfaced, each of which was alleged to be of US POWs
alive, right now, in Southeast Asia. The photos were phony. Yet, in some MIA
cult circles, these photos continue to be sacred relics. I am working on getting
copies of these photos on this page. Until then, please be content to read about
Photo Examples. Occasionally, a source would produce a photo that was of a real person.
Here are two examples.
Amateur Analysts : In
June 1967, Captain Victor Apodaca and 1LT Jon Busch were shot down in an F-4C over North
Vietnam. In 1973, US intell interrogated a source who described having seen aircraft
wreckage and a dead American. Given the date and location, we equated this report to
the Apodaca-Busch loss. However, a retinue of amateur analysts in the "activist
community" have tried their hands at analyzing this report.
The Case of SGT James Ray : This article relates the facts of a case in which a simple clerical
error has been portrayed as proof of a conspiracy.
The bus ride to nowhere : While the focus of the MIA Facts Site is on US MIAs from the Vietnam War, let us
not forget that Americans remain missing from other conflicts, too. Spurred on by
the success achieved by those who claim that US POWs were abandoned in Vietnam, there is a
growing crowd of MIA enthusiasts who claim that US POWs are still being held in North
Korea. Mr. Serban Oprica, a Rumanian electrical engineer who worked for a while in
NKorea, immigrated to the US and told a story about a chance encounter with people he
believed to be US POWs in a village in NKorea. It's a great story but it does not
stand up to even cursory scrutiny.
: Avoiding the truth does not change it.
The Mailbag : I get fan mail. Here are some of my favorites.
This is an Honor? Makes me puke.
Former Congressman William ("Just call me 'Billy' " )
Hendon and Senator Bob Smith are responsible for some of the most reprehensible actions
affecting the MIA issue. Under the guise of seeking truth and facts, these two
continue to mislead, confuse, misinform, and lie.
Former Congressman Billy Hendon: Mendacity Without Shame : One of the heroes of
the MIA "activists" -- possibly the supreme hero -- is former Congressman Billy
Hendon. Hendon is a persuasive speaker and has been at the center of almost
every MIA caper for over a decade. Hendon and his claims are phony. The man is
a shameless demagogue.
The "Island Fortress" : In a
highly-publicized trip to Vietnam in 1993, Senator Smith and Bobby Garwood
"found" a spot where Garwood claimed to have seen US POWs in the late 1970s.
The whole show was a charade staged by Hendon and Smith.
|Senator Smith's Cowboy : In early 1986, then-Representative (now Senator) Bob
Smith produced a source who told a most bizarre story about US POWs in Vietnam. The story
was, on its face, nonsense. Still, we investigated it with due diligence. When we finally
faced reality and determined the story to be a fabrication, Smith, as usual, accused us of
debunking. Representative Smith, we learned later, was less than forthcoming in his
dealings with the Defense Intelligence Agency. How about you read the details of
this caper and make up your mind.|
|Senator Smith Debates Reality : For some time, Senator Smith pressured the intelligence community
-- specifically, the CIA -- to produce an estimate of Vietnamese cooperation on the MIA
issue and an analysis of the "1205 document." In August 1998, the CIA
released their National Intelligence Estimate on those two topics. Smith, of course,
did not like the results so he has decided to do his own analysis. I can hardly
|Beneath the Streets of Hanoi. In the early 1990s, Senator Bob Smith seized on some reports
from a number of refugees who claimed that they know of American POWs being held in an
underground prison, in downtown Hanoi, underneath Ho Chi Minh's tomb. Several of
these reports surfaced but, when we tracked them down, we found that they were the
invention of one source who had started the rumor and it spread, taking on a life of its
own. Senator Smith did as he normally does: He claimed that there are XX
reports from YY sources, therefore, it must be true. There are and there were no US
POWs held in underground prisons beneath Hanoi, and certainly not in or under Ho's tomb.
Reuters news service carried two stories, one a report of Smith's claims and the
other an interview with the Russian ambassador on the topic of US POWs underneath Hanoi.
On a few occasions, I have heard Smith or his supporters claiming that the Russian
ambassador admitted that the area under Ho's tomb was secure, thereby supporting their
claim. Read the documents on this page and make up
your own mind.|
|The Attack of the Primitives. As of this
writing -- February 14, 1999 -- two activities are underway revolving around former USMC
PFC Robert Garwood, the only American to have been convicted of collaborating with the
enemy in Vietnam. First, a major attempt is underway
to overturn the conviction of former US Marine Corps PFC Robert Garwood. Second,
there is a vicious attack building on a small group of former US POWs who testified
against Garwood in his court-martial. In 1997, former (fired) Sixty Minutes
producer Monika Jensen published a book entitled Spite House. This book is
part of the attempt to rehabilitate Garwood. Based on the claims of a former USMC
lieutenant colonel, Tom McKenney, Spite House attempts to prove that
Garwood was innocent, framed by a spiteful government. The book is total trash.
The author NEVER interviewed other US POWs who were held with Garwood, made no
attempt to review the trial transcript, and essentially did nothing but accept at
face-value McKenney's falsehoods. Passages in Spite House are slanderous
toward US POWs held with Garwood and one of them has now filed a libel suit against Monika
Jensen and her publisher. The MIA activists have now commenced a maddog attack on
this man and on the other POWs held with Garwood. Ross Perot has hired an individual
to "look into" Garwood's conviction. My concern -- and this should be the
concern of every other veteran who served honorably in Vietnam -- is that with Perot's
money and connections, with Senator Bob Smith's position, and with former Congressman
Billy Hendon's scheming, enough noise will be made to generate sympathy for Garwood and
possibly have his case re-opened. There is already talk of a movie based on Spite
House. This is serious. (Addendum, May 19, 2000: One of the
returned POWs who was slandered in Spite House sued the author and publisher and
won. Read about it here.)|
Accounting Command (JPAC). This organization is a result of
combining the U. S. Army Central Identification Laboratory, Hawaii, and
Joint Task Force - Full Accounting. Go to the website where you
will find an excellent description of their mission and operations.
It is the JPAC that is doing the real work of accounting for missing
|The Armed Forces DNA
Identification Laboratory (AFDIL). AFDIL is recognized as a world leader
in DNA research and in the use of DNA as an identifying tool. Their site is quite
|The Real Work : Want to read about what is REALLY going on in the search for
missing Americans? Here is a website that is maintained by a gentleman who is one of the
dedicated folks working everyday to find answers about missing men.|
Library of Congress POW-MIA Database This link takes you to the Library of Congress Federal Research
Division (FRD) POW-MIA database. You click on a letter and go to the names of men
who were prisoner or missing in SEAsia. After clicking on the letter, you have to
scroll around to find he name you are looking for. Each man is listed with his date
of loss, service, rank, date of return (if returned), and some other info. A link on
the database page takes you to a page with the abbreviations explained.|
(Note: As of December 2005, this
newsgroup is empty, although it still appears as an active newsgroup.
This is a real shame as SHWV was a good place for discussions related to
the Vietnam War.)|
|For an excellent place to find discussions of the Vietnam War, go to the
newsgroup: soc.history.war.vietnam . This
is a moderated newsgroup that provides a forum for discussion and exchange of ideas on any
aspect of the Vietnam War you may wish to discuss.
|This newsgroup also has a treasure trove of documents, bibliographies, and FAQs
on the Vietnam experience at: http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/shwv/shwvhome.html
|The National League of Families of
Prisoners and Missing in Southeast Asia : The League is the oldest
family organization. It is unique in that its voting membership is limited to family
members only, whereas other family organizations permit anyone to be a voting member.|
|Advocacy and Intelligence Index.
Mr. Bob Necci publishes news releases and official documents on this site; articles are
then archived for future reference and retrieval. However, visitors to this site
need to know that most of the unofficial articles that Mr. Necci posts support the
cover-up-and-conspiracy crowd, in spite of his claims to be a neutral provider of
information. Here you will find, not only government news releases and
articles, but also articles by MIA "activists" who attack anyone who disagrees
with them. Except for the factual news release and announcements, this site has
very few articles that provide a balanced, factual view of the MIA issue.
(NOTE: As of 14 December 2005, this site had not
been updated since 6 November. In fact, throughout 2005, updates
to this site were rare.) (FURTHER NOTE:
As of late November 2011, this site appears to be non-existent.)|
|A Challenge to the "MIA activist" Webmasters.
The WWW is overrun with POW-MIA sites, each of them
proclaiming that US POWs were abandoned in SEAsia, that the "government" is
covering up these unfortunates and lying to us about the fact, etc., etc., etc. Many
of these sites are linked to one another. From time to time, I have asked the
webmasters of various sites to link to my MIA Facts Site. Is anyone surprised to
know that not one of them has the intellectual honesty to link to my site so that their
readers can see the facts? This article is a challenge to them. In this
article, I have links to their sites. Will they link to mine? Don't hold your
If you would like to read books that deal with
facts of the MIA issue, go to my selections on the Vietnam
War POW-MIA Issue at my
Home Page Bookstore.